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Hei, Two years ago I made my first own traditional type cider using your great instructions. Cider was good. Last fall there were no apples in my apple tree. But now I got enough apples to make 20l of cider. Fermentation is done now, Bottling starts soon. Taste is good alredy.
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Hi! Thanks, that was a quick answer! =D

Yeah, i guess the fermentation process is nearly done! I had thought it would take longer, like weeks! I added 500g sugar. I wonder if i might ruin the cider by leaving it for too long? Since i'm travelling to the north for the weekend.

Then i'll just add some acids, perhaps a little lemon juice will do. And try to find also bigger bottles!

How long the cider should stay in bottles in fridge before it's good for drinking?

Yep, I'll hope this will be at least drinkable! It seems quite strong though, if it's 10-12! Good to know, i'll have to be carefull with it. =D

Did you make cider also this year?

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Hi Saara!

The cider is nearing "ready" when the amount of bubbles coming out of the water lock slow down considerably. If you're using only apple juice and at most just a bit of sugar, the fermentation will cease when the sugar has run out (as most yeast can easily stand to 12% of alcohol. It also depends of the temperature. In 25C ambient temperature if might take about a week, not much more. If the fermentation is fully completed (no sugar left) and most of the CO2 has also been removed, the same method of calculation should work about right. Mine is usually 10% of alcohol.

It is ok to add pasteurized and C-vitaminated juice later. But it is harder to estimate the process of second fermentation with smaller bottles. They also tend to be more "heterogenous" in contents when compared. Don't keep the bottles in warm for too long (a few hours might suffice) and keep the bottles in refrigenerator temperatures afterwards.

Document properly what you have done so far and your next batch will be even better .

I wish you the best of luck and keep on trying!

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Hi Zk! And thanks for the very usefull site! I disslike the sweet commersial ciders as well, and prefer the traditional "cloudy" ones.

I have now a 15 litre of cider coming now, in the proper fermentation vessel with the water lock. Just a few questions remain:

First: when is the cider ready? I only started it last friday, so 5 days ago. It has almost stopped bubbling already (only bubbles once in a while), can it yet be ready for bottles? I'm not sure if i had the right amount of yeast!

Secondly: i'm propably using your trick to add apple juice for the later fermentation. Is it ok, if the homemade apple juice is both pastorized and C-vitaminized? Will this affect the process? I'll propably just use normal 0,5 littre clear bottles, they were ok i quess.

Third: With the "ominaispainomittari" the natural weight meter (?), how do i calculate the alcohol prosent? Is it same than in vine, the difference of the weight before and after the process, divided by 7?

I don't know if you follow this cider book anymore, but if you do i'll appreciate your answers! =)

greetings!
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kari
From: finland
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Ready to bottle, second try. I really enjoyed my first ever self made cider last year and waited a long winter and summer to get apples from the gargen again. This year I didn't steam the apples to juice but used the mashed apples that were left when my wife steamed some applejuice -let's see how it tastes...
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Mark Shirley
From: England
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Well that was a surprise! Nice to see apples being put to good use in Finland. I make a bit of cider myself, and contribute to this online forum for all things cidery:
www.ukcider.co.uk
Try also the ukcider wiki at:http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Cheers, Mark
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Janne
From: Finland
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I'm having a go at cider making this year. Trying out a swedish/british type recpipe with a few modifications. It's similar to the one described here, but with a few more stages and a longer fermentations process. My modifications will however speed it up a bit, hopefully. So, waiting for the 40 litres to begin to bubble.
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GeorgeJ
From: England
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hey

i am 18, and decided to make my own cider due to having apple trees, and being a cider lover.

i left my bottles in far too warm a place during maturing evidently, as there is very very excessive C02! but at the moment i am making another batch (4 gallons this time instead of two) and will learn from my mistakes!

in my first batch, i made cider, with cranberry juice added, which turned out to be an extremely interesting addition, a very unique taste!
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Lauri Ahonen
From: Helsinki, Finland
Website: http://www.turboraketti.org
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Hello!

I had to get rid of the old cider book because of excess spam. This is custom made and should work notably better!
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DFL
From: Confusion, Finland
Website: http://www.kommandiitti.com
E-mail: sorry@it.is.priva.te
Ah finally found a very neat site with instructions one can actually follow. Thanks mate.
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peter lindstrum
From: williamstown, australia
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I am only just reading your pages,i will keep you informed of progress,I enjoy Cidre Bouche Kerisac from France but costs AUST $12.00per 750millilitre,would like to make a similar product
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Gam
From: Bonny Doon, CA, USA
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My landlord has a tree that has the most bitter, sour and hard apples. Someone told him they were cider apples, so this year we picked around 40lbs from this tree, then went round to the forgotten orchards near us and picked another 50lbs of sweet apples of various kinds. Then we rented a Jeffery press and made about 6 gallons of juice (1 gallon of which we just drank because it was so good). I have just added the yeast, pectolase and fermaid (in varying combinations across the gallon jugs) and put the airlocks in. I did keep one bottle of the pure cider apple juice as it was, with a little sugar and no campden tablets. I am eagerly awaiting the result.
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Bengt Lagerholm
From: Sweden
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More photos added to the Cider Making album at http://groups.msn.com/Bengt
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Bengt Lagerholm
From: Sweden
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Bob,
I have used a garden shredder for two seasons. Works great. It is a German machine \"Alko 2000\" I also modyfied the knives; filed a row of notches on them. It gave a better effect to the pulping process. I have some pictures of my equipment on
http//groups.msn.com/bengt. I have more pictures to show if I only find them. On feature to mention is that I use a centrum drum of a washing machine instead of the \"cheese methode\". I will describe it in pictures (when I find them).
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bob owen
From: North West, England
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Hello cider fans, just thought I\'d add a novel way of pulping your apples... use a garden shredder! I use a sterilised Black and Decker, and it\'s taken all the hard work out of turning my apples to pulp, anyone else used similar?
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gordon
From: glenrothes, scotland
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just started first batch of cider lets see how it goes
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best cider making cite yet. bravo
Added: 21.4.2004      Delete this entry
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Matt
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Hey. i\'m brewing two gallons of cider in seperate gallon jugs. this is my first attempt at cider making and i didn\'t really catch any mention of racking the mixture. i\'ve been racking it every 4 or five days when it throws a sediment. i\'ve almost eliminated the sediment completly and i think i\'ve improved the taste. does this mess with the fermentation? i\'m going to bottle it in a couple days and i want to know if i\'ve somehow destroyed my cider and if so if theres any way to save it. I really enjoyed this page. it\'s been one of the biggest helps i\'ve found on the internet.
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Michael
From: New Jersey, USA
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Hi, your web page is very interesting, thank you. I am a winemaker, an Australian in the USA and I just bought 60 litres of pressed apple juice to make cider. Not sure if I will use beer or wine yeast to ferment, but I did plan on primary fermentation in an open barrel. Good idea? Feedback appreciated! Thanks, Michael
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Lauri Ahonen
From: Helsinki, Finland
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I just bottled 40L of cider to mature. This year I had to use mostly windfalls, but looks promising! Good luck to you all!
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Toby
From: Bristol, UK
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Good to see it\'s not just me enjoying home made cider and the effort involved getting the juice makes the end product all the more enjoyable.

I have found that using traditional apples is the best as due to their acidity one doesnt have to add campden, (sulphur dioxide tablets) unitll the end and then in minimum amounts. (obviously less acid apple juice is more likely to spoil), only problem has been in the past that the cider then becomes very acid. This can be solved by leaving the fermentation 3-4 weeks longer after it appears to have stopped, (malolactic fermentation).

Interesting that you sweeten before bottling I have had rather explosive problems in the past with this and now sweeten before drinking, like oyu with commercial apple juice.

I\'ve been gently warming it and adding a bit of goldschlager for cinnamon mulled cider and love it.

Enjoy your brewing and good luck x
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Jane
From: Wales, UK
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Smashing site and I found you first go looking on Google for cider making.
I would be interested in French style cider making if anyone knows.
I will post pictures when I have made my very first batch.
best wishes

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James Boucher
From: Midlands, England
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hi
great site, very useful. I live in central england, and am attempting my first batch of cider soon. Wish me luck!
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Luc De pauw
From: Borneu, Belgium
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Hi,
I\'m offered a batch of apples (actually a tree) but don\'t know how much apples (kilos) are in a litre of juice.

Nice information on your site, my grandfather made cider (french way) and as a kid I enjoyed this adult drink :-) Sadly my grandfather passed away without passing the recepy.
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Lauri Ahonen
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Hello Harry!

Nice to know about your interest in spontaneous and wild yeast fermenting! I haven\'t been paying much attention to the wild yeast in apples, I have always added either new commercial top fermenting or own culture preserved from previous batch. Accordingly, I haven\'t been doing any effort in setting of the wild yeast. Maybe I should look into this subject more thoroughly..

If you ever set up a page about your doings, please let me know! Thank you very much!

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Harry Lister
From: Maryland, USA
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I enjoyed your cider page, as I am interested in spontaneously fermented beers like kriek lambic. I think I will try adding apples to a malt wort for the wild yeasts. Kloeckera Apiculata is the wild yeast responsible for the cider taste in traditional ciders and also found in Lambics. Of course, Saccharomyces spp. also are involved. God is Good.
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Lauri Ahonen
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Hi Bengt! I have just taken my apples to a local special juicemaking station, Finland has plenty of them.

Thank you for your visit. Please make sure that you do tell me the address to your homepages when you get them done!
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Bengt Lagerholm
From: Kungälv, Sweden
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Lauri,
How do you crush the apples and what kind of press do you have?
I´m in my second season of cider making and find it fun and tasty!
I have som fotos of my (home made) equipment, I will fix a homepage soon an put them there. Give you a note when it\'s available.

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Christopher Holland
From: Wellington, England
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High ZK,
thanks for your tips on cider making.
I live in Wellington, Somerset, England.
If you geography is as good as your english, you should have no problem finding that.
Mentioning Somerset, I am sure that will mean cider apples to you.
I have not done much home brewing, but the little I have done has been relatively succesful.
I have brewed stout, which is a dark english drink (like beer) and that was O.K.
I will choose my apple variety carefully and let you know how I get on.

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Lauri Ahonen
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Hello! This is my cider book. Feel free to share your cider making experiences here!
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